CrashDummy 02-11-2005, 08:23 PM Im looking for someone to Invest a Vbulletin License into my site: LINK REMOVED. In Exchange, the partner would have full Admin Powers at the Site and if we start to make money would get a percentage of the profits.
Yes, I know my site is new, but it's growing extremely fast.
If interested, You AIM, PM, or Email me!
P.S. I have a bonus Im gonna start offering to my registered members in order to get more members at my site starting later this week (ask about it if you want more information.)
thanks for reading,
CrashDummy
EDIT: Mod removed link.
theMusicMan 02-12-2005, 03:59 AM So, let me see if I understand this. You want someone to pay for a vB license, from which you very kindly offer that they will be an admin (of their own software) and then only if you start making money would they get a % of profits... which I assume would be less than 50% huh!!!
Tell you what... and this is just a personal opinion... I don't think you'll get many offers to be honest. I sincerely hope you do as I wish everyone who wants to have a go at things all the success in the world, but somehow I can't see what you're putting in over and above a $7.99 domain name and webspace maybe. Where's the fairness in what you ask?
If your site is growing that fast, perhaps you could ask your 35 members if they'd like to contribute $5 each which would then be enough for you to purchase an owned license and move over from phpBB to vB yourself.
You have a very good domain name which I am sure has bags of potential, but you really need to put together a pragmatic business plan that will attract the investors you are looking for.
Why not try a banner system, or a subscription/support system - or even an @forumhelper e-mail system for your supporting members - that way you could start getting the revenue you need.
Good luck.
Joeychgo 02-12-2005, 08:12 AM I agree. Plus he comes to what would be a competitor forum to find this.
Noppid 02-12-2005, 08:15 AM I saw it and looked for the move button. LOL
Joeychgo 02-12-2005, 08:35 AM nah, im not into deleting posts. I looked at the site, its seems to be mostly kids who are talking about free hosting and free software.
theMusicMan 02-12-2005, 09:00 AM nah, im not into deleting posts. I looked at the site, its seems to be mostly kids who are talking about free hosting and free software.
Yup - me too Joey, which is why I suggested perhaps he should consider this more seriously than he has...;)
Joeychgo 02-12-2005, 09:21 AM His enthusiasm is admirable, just hasnt really thought it through.
CrashDummy 02-12-2005, 12:34 PM theMusicMan: Umm, thanks for you input, you actually gave me some good things to look at.Yea, I guess I havent thought this thought as much as I should of before posthing this.
Joeyago: Sorry, If I posted my site on your forum and you consider competing. Yea, Im strong-willed, just Im scared of failure/disaster as you would say.
(Umm, You all had me down when i first read this thread, but now made me more determined to "cut the crap" that's been taking place on my site if it looks as if most of us are "kids")
Joeychgo 02-12-2005, 07:42 PM Well, its not that - its just that serious webmaster can afford the $85 a year for a vb license, and most of the conversation I saw was about VB being too expensive, and fee hosting companies, and what not. Just the tone of conversations.
It doesnt make you look too good that you cant afford to buy or lease a license.
theMusicMan 02-13-2005, 02:43 AM Crashdummy - it is good that you can read through the words to the true meaning of what I said... kudos to you for that. Many people may have taken umbridges at those words of mine - when all I am doing is what you have understood. You show good common sense and pragmatism and I wish you well.
If you need further help or advise, we at vBW are here to help... good luck!
Joeychgo 02-13-2005, 05:50 AM Absolutely. THats what we're here for
GuyFromChicago 02-16-2005, 11:57 AM Crashdummy, good luck with your site...looks like you're off to a good start. It will get harder, trust me.
BTW, I did get your message and am not interested in merging The Forum Zone with your site st this time :D Check back with me in 6 months. I say that becuase I've had at least a dozen people in the last year approach me about a merger of some kind...then they close shop 3 months later. I'm happy being a little forum and helping people when I can. The Forum Zone is not a commercial/profit motivated venture.
Joeychgo 02-16-2005, 03:33 PM I would be sooo hurt if you didnt ask VBW to merge first!
GuyFromChicago 02-17-2005, 11:46 AM You would be on the top of my list sir ;)
Joeychgo 02-17-2005, 12:20 PM Kool :D
petertdavis 02-27-2005, 11:30 PM I wouldn't say it's necessarily a bad idea to sponsor someone's forum with a vBulletin license. If I liked the forum, I'd let them use one of my licenses for some advertising space.
Joeychgo 02-28-2005, 10:00 AM his forum is down now.
theMusicMan 02-28-2005, 10:13 AM Eeek.. oneandone as well... beurgh...:)
Mike54 03-04-2005, 11:07 AM Joey, you might want to scrub that link out of the first post. Take a wee peek for yourself.
Mike
theMusicMan 03-04-2005, 11:32 AM Joey, you might want to scrub that link out of the first post. Take a wee peek for yourself.
Mike
Thanks Mike... all done...:)
Joeychgo 03-04-2005, 01:54 PM Yeah - I guess they went under or something. Nice catch - thanks I pulled the link from the guys profile too.
clasione 03-04-2005, 10:15 PM Definetly not the first time I've seen that post around....
Joeychgo 03-04-2005, 10:22 PM yeah - whats funny is that they expect nobody to notice
clasione 03-04-2005, 10:24 PM Some people just don't realize how much we forum maniacs actually can get around in one day..... :D
Joeychgo 03-04-2005, 10:40 PM No kidding.
AnthonyCea 03-05-2005, 02:56 PM You guys were wondering about this guy from day one, maybe you should review new members sites before letting them join and post here....
theMusicMan 03-05-2005, 04:19 PM Anthony
The Porn link that was spotted in the 1st post in this thread was not the link that was there when the guy first posted it. It was changed to the porn link recently.
We do check links... well... I do for one and I am sure Joey and my other Mod colleagues also do.
clasione 03-05-2005, 06:03 PM I saw a reply by Anthony in my email, so I came to check the thread....
Anthony is alot better looking than I had expected..... :p
Joeychgo 03-05-2005, 09:14 PM You want me to set up a date with him for you?
GuyFromChicago 03-07-2005, 11:45 AM Good catch guys - the posts here are what caused me to catch this guy in my forum too. Grrr...spammers...grrr:-)
Joeychgo 03-07-2005, 11:54 AM Glad you caught him.
XTreme 03-13-2005, 04:29 AM well if the url was forumhelper.com
me and some other people worked hard to help him set the site up, we spent a lot of time on it, then he backstabbed us all, sold it and never told us, he blocked us on im programs, so my advice is stay away from him, but after he sold the domain, me and 1 of the owners, not the one who sold it, decided to start it again with the database, we were then reported to the webhost for hosting copyrighted material, so dont trust him, dont do anything in affiliation with him, dont go near him
Joeychgo 03-13-2005, 04:51 AM Its him - and we dont. Thanks for the heads up.
AnthonyCea 03-13-2005, 06:03 PM If any developers want a real opportunity to partner contact me at www.internetnamebank.com
We trade ownership for talent if you can build database driven sites.
Noppid 03-13-2005, 07:41 PM If any developers want a real opportunity to partner contact me at www.internetnamebank.com
We trade ownership for talent if you can build database driven sites.
I know some php commands. ;)
How about some more details?
AnthonyCea 03-19-2005, 10:12 AM I know some php commands. ;)
How about some more details?
The details are:
Developers of sites joint ventured are also owners, sharing in cash flow and own part of the site/business built, when and if that site is sold for big money that developer gets his part of the proceeds and we do it over and over.
Sounds fun. The hard part isn't building the site, its building the community!
Noppid 05-19-2005, 09:23 PM Sounds fun. The hard part isn't building the site, its building the community!
Amen!
sarahk 05-19-2005, 10:13 PM Sooo funny. And I'd want to see a business plan too. I wonder if he has one?
Sarah
AnthonyCea 06-02-2005, 09:49 AM Yeah SarahK, the venture capitalists wanted the same thing, but I am not giving anyone free ideas in the hope that they invest some money.
These guys wanted me to spend a couple thousand to fly into South Florida to present www.Internetnamebank.com to them, I mean what the hell for, it is an online incubator/holding company for domains and an trade exchange for webmasters, how in the hell hard is that for someone to understand that has half a brain?
I am building out individual sites with developers but most of them just sit on their asses and install a script on a server and then tell me they have other projects to finish and I tell them to get to it when they have the time and this happens over and over.
So my idea is to get enough money for hosting, pay the host for the entire year, install a portal CMS and just do it myself because it is rare to find anyone that can actually do something well and do it everyday.
Alternative plan is to partner with SarahK and succeed because she knows how to get things done and works her ass off everyday :)
sarahk 06-02-2005, 10:22 PM clasione!
love the new photo, much better!
http://www.vbwebmaster.com/forums/image.php?u=104&dateline=1117090012
CrashDummy 06-12-2005, 05:43 PM well if the url was forumhelper.com
me and some other people worked hard to help him set the site up, we spent a lot of time on it, then he backstabbed us all, sold it and never told us, he blocked us on im programs, so my advice is stay away from him, but after he sold the domain, me and 1 of the owners, not the one who sold it, decided to start it again with the database, we were then reported to the webhost for hosting copyrighted material, so dont trust him, dont do anything in affiliation with him, dont go near him
Ill probably be banned after this post but oh well...............
First of all, it was my site and I never said you were a owner and you never spend money into the site. Yeah I did block you on messengers, that was after you had hijacked my Namepros account and spend all its' Site Currency, Edit's it's profile to say mean things and dont know what messages/Pm's you send on that account. Im no spammer, and as for the copyrighted material, that was forumhelper's database that you had no right using. Only thing I should of done different was give you guys a little heads up since you helped out on the site but in no was am I a "spammer", con-artist , bad person or anything that.
:mad:
sarahk 06-12-2005, 05:46 PM Crikey, I guess it just goes to show that you should know who you are dealing with and perhaps not solicit help through this kind of avenue.
Noppid 06-12-2005, 05:59 PM Well, I dunno the story, but time is money. When people get help, helpers expect a community to stick around for their enjoyment after providing that help.
So this can go both ways. It can be said that you should be careful of people looking for free help, they may take it and profit from it.
See how that works? I've been in this business a long time.
I pretty much agreed to it due...
Mine 2nd vbulletin forum was a shared within a no. of people, however everyone is close friends and is all volunterary form, share cost every quaterly and each time round was SGD$15 that is less than USD$7 and in pound is even lesser.
One back out and drag a whole pack of "wolves" to come in and shoot their rights as well as everyone why she should pay and so foreforth making a scene and created a mess on the board. I mean is volunterary and no one force anyone to pay or shared. No one did says she cant back out from the cost sharing but what she done is to get enough user and spam pages and pages of text and all sort of insult on the place.
Im not going anymore of what happen and is internal. What i want to say here to webmasters of various forums/sites are, if FRIENDS can be so "trusted", more to say that online help joint venture unless is ur interest field or be it a trust u place on another, the same money issues will still happen and occur and thus hurting friendship and everything here. It isnt about cannot ask but rather both parties should consider carefully abt sharing cost because like i said here USD$7 can create and arguement thru frens, whats more abt a higher price. Is still all about money.
Noppid 06-12-2005, 08:14 PM Yep, it's tough out there with partnerships of people you may never have met or will meet.
As a helper, at worst you lost the time invested. As a money partner, things could feel alot worse.
Know what you can afford to lose when you partner.
exactly.
So since this crashdummy webmaster willing to open up his joint venture asking, let just let him ask and if anyone is interested, he/she will be link up somehow.
I read thru, know abit of conflict but all i want to say here is since it pass, let go, this isnt your forum to put ur personal arguement here.
But consider carefully choices of asking afilitation or joint venture. :)
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