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Upgrade to 3.6.1 Success

b2w
09-22-2006, 10:10 PM
Now for questions....

My DH upgraded my board behind my back and it took him all of 10 mins or probably less. I log into my board and everything is working and there is like no need to re-hack. Why not? Was I supposed to revert everything and start all over for the upgrade?

Peggy
09-22-2006, 10:19 PM
After the upgrade you needed to revert templates. When you log into your acp, it'll tell you which templates to revert, unless he reverted them already. But if he did, then you'd need to do all of your hack edits again, unless they didn't require a template edit in the template that was reverted

b2w
09-22-2006, 10:25 PM
After the upgrade you needed to revert templates. When you log into your acp, it'll tell you which templates to revert, unless he reverted them already. But if he did, then you'd need to do all of your hack edits again, unless they didn't require a template edit in the template that was reverted

OK. He did the upgrade and went back to bed. I feel stuck. I'll take a look around my ACP and try to figure this thing out. Thanks!

b2w
09-22-2006, 10:40 PM
Do I revert all templates at one time? Or do I do one template at a time on the list?

Noppid
09-22-2006, 10:47 PM
If the ACP is not telling you there are templates to revert, do nothing. Don't just arbitrailly revert all. You will lose all your edits for reference.

Ask dh if he reverted the templates and re-applied the edits that were necessary.

Make sure he did not dismiss the template edits called for. If he did, your board is broken from my perspective.

Peggy
09-22-2006, 10:52 PM
She told me that he was in there for only a few minutes, so I doubt he did everything that needed doing :(

Noppid
09-22-2006, 10:55 PM
She told me that he was in there for only a few minutes, so I doubt he did everything that needed doing :(

My biggest concern is that if she has any hacks, I would guess that there were at least about 8 templates to compare and move edits from the old version of the new versions.

So I'm wondering if he clicked dismiss?

b2w
09-22-2006, 11:06 PM
I asked him and he said he only upgraded and that I have to fix the template edits because I'm the one who installed them which is fair. I am reverting one by one.

Peggy
09-22-2006, 11:08 PM
My biggest concern is that if she has any hacks, I would guess that there were at least about 8 templates to compare and move edits from the old version of the new versions.

So I'm wondering if he clicked dismiss?

she has 32 hacks!! :eek:

and god I hope he didn't do that

Peggy
09-22-2006, 11:09 PM
I asked him and he said he only upgraded and that I have to fix the template edits because I'm the one who installed them which is fair. I am reverting one by one.
yep that's fair. I bet you have a long list in there... yikes

b2w
09-22-2006, 11:10 PM
yep that's fair. I bet you have a long list in there... yikes

Yep long list. I'm going to spend my Sunday hacking.

Peggy
09-22-2006, 11:12 PM
I'd seriously consider cutting down on the number of hacks you have Tanya. Seriously.

b2w
09-22-2006, 11:16 PM
I'd seriously consider cutting down on the number of hacks you have Tanya. Seriously.

If I PM you my list can you help me pick and choose?

Noppid
09-22-2006, 11:16 PM
Is the vB list of templates that need attention showing up when you first enter the ACP? It's a huge help as opposed to have to deal with every red template.

You are using compare it or a similar editor I hope? http://www.grigsoft.com/ Get version 3.86

Peggy
09-22-2006, 11:31 PM
If I PM you my list can you help me pick and choose?

of course I will.

b2w
09-22-2006, 11:31 PM
Is the vB list of templates that need attention showing up when you first enter the ACP? It's a huge help as opposed to have to deal with every red template.

You are using compare it or a similar editor I hope? http://www.grigsoft.com/ Get version 3.86

Yes, I see a list of temps that need attention. I reverted them all. I don't know what needs to be changed in them so I'm going to go through all the hacks and reinstall.

I don't have a compare it or a similar editor.

OK so this is my first issue.

Peggy
09-22-2006, 11:32 PM
You are using compare it or a similar editor I hope? http://www.grigsoft.com/ Get version 3.86

Oh neat. I'm getting this

b2w
09-22-2006, 11:33 PM
of course I will.

Thanks! PMed you!

Peggy
09-22-2006, 11:34 PM
ok good. Now pay attention to noppid's post... you need to be careful.

b2w
09-22-2006, 11:34 PM
Is the vB list of templates that need attention showing up when you first enter the ACP? It's a huge help as opposed to have to deal with every red template.

You are using compare it or a similar editor I hope? http://www.grigsoft.com/ Get version 3.86


I wish I had gotten this before I reverted lol. Oh well too late now.

friscogal
09-22-2006, 11:34 PM
do you HAVE to change templates if everything is working ok? i only ask because in my ACP it did not say i HAD to. I am so new to all this, do i just follow the directions in the announcement at vb.org?

Peggy
09-22-2006, 11:43 PM
Tammy after the upgrade, IF there are any templates to be reverted, you'll see a list in your acp. It'll tell you how may templates there are that need reverting, and exactly which ones.
If you didnt get that, then there aren't any. If you did, then you NEED to take care of them, regardless of whether the board is working right or not.

Peggy
09-22-2006, 11:45 PM
Tanya, geeze cramminies woman... I just got the list of hacks. You are seriously over-hacked lol.
There are alot of bells and whistles here that aren't really necessary. Nice... but not necessary.
Once you get the flashchat and sb installed, you very well may get server resources warning from your host, lol. WOW this is alot of hacks

Noppid
09-23-2006, 12:13 AM
Flashchat is a known hack (bad hack) point last we had heard. :eek:

Was that fixed?

Peggy
09-23-2006, 12:23 AM
I don't think so but I haven't looked lately to know for sure.

b2w
09-23-2006, 08:16 AM
For Flashchat they came up with a new and improved version. So far I haven't heard anything bad yet.

Noppid
09-23-2006, 08:39 AM
For Flashchat they came up with a new and improved version. So far I haven't heard anything bad yet.

Good news, that was what I had hoped. Thanks for the heads up.

b2w
09-23-2006, 07:47 PM
I shouldn't have reverted everything. :(

friscogal
09-24-2006, 12:38 AM
Tammy after the upgrade, IF there are any templates to be reverted, you'll see a list in your acp. It'll tell you how may templates there are that need reverting, and exactly which ones.
If you didnt get that, then there aren't any. If you did, then you NEED to take care of them, regardless of whether the board is working right or not.


peggy, what do i need to revert them to? do i need to revert the default skin even if i am not using it. it says i need to revert 2 "girltalk" templates and 5 "default" templates.

do i need to find the instrux on vb.org

Peggy
09-24-2006, 12:53 AM
nope nope. Which templates are they?

You can either use the templates compare feature in the acp and compare the old templare to the new template and do the changes manually, or you can just click on revert, and if any of them were edited due to hacks, you'll have to re-do the edits.

But you don't have very many hacks as I recall, right?


For the default skin, I just clicked on the revert link and moved on. None of those templates are hacked on my board so I knew I didn't have to re-do any edits.
If you have only two templates on your main style to revert, gal, you lucked out!

friscogal
09-24-2006, 01:38 AM
I shouldn't have reverted everything. :(


what do you mean? what happened?

b2w
09-24-2006, 09:53 AM
what do you mean? what happened?

I have to do a lot of template edits for hacks which were in working order. :p My mistake. Live and learn.

Peggy
09-24-2006, 10:04 AM
You still had to revert them. Regardless of whether the hacks were working ok or not beforehand, there were changes to the templates, otherwise they wouldn't have told you to revert them

Noppid
09-24-2006, 10:23 AM
Yes, true. But doing them one at a time with a comparision editor saves perhaps hours of work. I think that is her regret.

But I bet she is a vB template expert now!

Peggy
09-24-2006, 10:50 AM
Yes, true. But doing them one at a time with a comparision editor saves perhaps hours of work. I think that is her regret.

But I bet she is a vB template expert now!

I know I'll be using the comparison editor next time :rolleyes:

b2w
09-25-2006, 02:28 PM
OK I have some postbit re-arranging to do and then I think I'm finished. I am going to admit that I did not revert any styles and I won't until I run into problems because I am totally bumbed out. Right now, I have this notice up in my ACP


As of vBulletin 3.6.0 RC1
The Allow Signatures option has been removed. If you had this option disabled, you should use signature permissions to deny signatures for specific usergroups.
Apple™ has updated the iTunes podcast categories. We have followed suit and updated the categories within vBulletin. You will need to edit any podcasting forums and update to the proper category


What does this mean to me? Should I just dismiss it?

b2w
09-25-2006, 02:57 PM
Also, where do I find the new Welcome Header and Welcome PM feature in the ACP? Thanks!

Peggy
09-25-2006, 02:58 PM
Ok wait.... you upgraded from 3.5.4 to 3.6.1 and didn't revert any templates, nor did you use the comparison feature and edit them?

Oh yeah, you'll run into probs, guaranteed.

Peggy
09-25-2006, 03:00 PM
Also, where do I find the new Welcome Header and Welcome PM feature in the ACP? Thanks!
acp --> vBulletin Options --> User Registration Options

Big Dan
09-25-2006, 03:38 PM
I'd suggest while it may be a lot of work and quite possibly drastic. Remove all your hacks and start from the begininng. That's the only way you'll be a sure all the template edits are 3.6.1 compliant.

b2w
09-25-2006, 05:08 PM
I don't know how to do what your telling me to do.

b2w
09-25-2006, 05:10 PM
Ok wait.... you upgraded from 3.5.4 to 3.6.1 and didn't revert any templates, nor did you use the comparison feature and edit them?

Oh yeah, you'll run into probs, guaranteed.

I know. I'm at the point where I'm going to pay someone to do it all over for me.

Noppid
09-25-2006, 05:31 PM
You have to keep records in some form. Even if it's only to put all your installed hacks in one folder with a folder in there for each hack.

Then you can say, what hacks do I have and pull up that folder and go through the instructions for each one.

I have seen many new admins get caught up in the excitement of hacks being free and then get in trouble down the line managing them. It's a tough job for any admin though.

To uninstall all your hacks, you'd have to revert all templates, remove all products, and remove all left over plug in hooks.

Then start all over. It would be an experience, but I bet if you do it, you won't install 36 hacks again. ;)

b2w
09-25-2006, 05:50 PM
You have to keep records in some form. Even if it's only to put all your installed hacks in one folder with a folder in there for each hack.

Then you can say, what hacks do I have and pull up that folder and go through the instructions for each one.

I have seen many new admins get caught up in the excitement of hacks being free and then get in trouble down the line managing them. It's a tough job for any admin though.



I do keep track of them and that's why it was easy to re-install them, time consuming, but they are all re-installed.

You are experienced and probably right, but I don't have the energy to revert and do over. That's something I'll have to deal with when I run into a problem.

Thanks for the help everyone. :)

Noppid
09-25-2006, 05:56 PM
I do keep track of them and that's why it was easy to re-install them, time consuming, but they are all re-installed.

You are experienced and probably right, but I don't have the energy to revert and do over. That's something I'll have to deal with when I run into a problem.

Thanks for the help everyone. :)

I was answering the question of how to remove them all, not suggesting it. Maybe I misunderstood. But I would not tell someone to do such a radical move unless a board fubar.

b2w
09-25-2006, 06:00 PM
I was answering the question of how to remove them all, not suggesting it. Maybe I misunderstood. But I would not tell someone to do such a radical move unless a board fubar.


No, you answered it well. I reverted everything it told me to revert except for the styles. Is that OK?

Noppid
09-25-2006, 06:12 PM
No, you answered it well. I reverted everything it told me to revert except for the styles. Is that OK?

Yes, if you followed the needs attention list you should be fine once you add back any edits necessary for hacks.

But as you now know, next time, take the template as is. Copy and paste it to one side of a comaprison editor. Then revert that template and copy and paste a copy of that to the other side of the comparision editor. Then move only the hack edits to the new version. Not every thing that the comparison editor says is different as many of the differences will be updated vB code.

You'll never have this problem again I'm sure. ;)

b2w
09-25-2006, 06:16 PM
Yes, if you followed the needs attention list you should be fine once you add back any edits necessary for hacks.

But as you now know, next time, take the template as is. Copy and paste it to one side of a comaprison editor. Then revert that template and copy and paste a copy of that to the other side of the comparision editor. Then move only the hack edits to the new version. Not every thing that the comparison editor says is different as many of the differences will be updated vB code.

You'll never have this problem again I'm sure. ;)

:) OK! ... the next time I'll be good for sure. Thanks!

Noppid
09-25-2006, 06:24 PM
:) OK! ... the next time I'll be good for sure. Thanks!

No problem. I've enjoyed giggling at you, cause I been there done that, as well as seeing you learn and over come adversity.

BTW, how's DH? :eek:

b2w
09-25-2006, 06:42 PM
No problem. I've enjoyed giggling at you, cause I been there done that, as well as seeing you learn and over come adversity.

BTW, how's DH? :eek:

I'm sure you had a very good laugh! I felt abandoned. Doesn't feel good! :p

And DH is still sick, I wish he'd get back and get back to his base because he's driving me crazy. :rolleyes:

Noppid
09-25-2006, 06:50 PM
And DH is still sick, ... he's driving me crazy. :rolleyes:

I wonder how many times my wife has said that? :eek:


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