Joeychgo 06-09-2006, 02:51 PM Time has come, I have to upgrade to a dedicated server.
Ive been waiting for this for some time. I am using a managed dedicated option, but buying my own server.
This is all a bit new for me. Ive been on shared hosting and currently on a Virtual Private Server (VPS) - But the time has come. In the coming weeks, this will be the first of my sites to move to the new server.
Ok, so here is the server I am about to order.
1U Opteron Dual-Core 165 /2G /2xGb NICs /2x 250G RAID Edition RAID1
Pre-installed Dual-core Processor:
single AMD Dual-Core Opteron 165 1.8Ghz
2x 1M L2 Cache, On-die Memory Controller
Pre-installed Motherboard:
Supermicro H8SSL-i Socket 939 Server Board
ServerWorks HT1000 Chipset
IPMI 2.0 Interface Card available
Pre-installed 1U Optimized CPU Cooling:
Dynatron A51 1U Copper Passive Heatsink
2x Delta 5000rpm 10cm System/CPU Blowers
Custom-fit "Wind Tunnel" (CSE-PT113)
Pre-installed RAM:
major brand 2048M(2G) 128-bit Dual-Channel
DDR-400 PC-3200, 2x 1G, 2x open, 8-Gig Max
Included Storage Devices:
2pcs Western Digital 250G SATA RAID Edition
WD2500SD, 7200rpm, 8-Meg Buffer, Hot-swap
Pre-installed Hardware RAID Controller:
3Ware Escalade 8006-2LP RAID Controller
2x 250G SATA hardware RAID-1, 250G Capacity
Included Removable Media Device
24x Slim CD-ROM, no floppy drive
Embedded Dual Gigabit NICs:
on-board Broadcom BMC5704C dual Gigabit NICs
Embedded Video:
on-board ATI Rage Video, 8M Video RAM
Chassis/Drive Bays/Cooling/Power Supply:
SuperMicro SC811T-260 1U Rackmount Chassis
2x hot-swap SATA carriers & backplane
1x slim CD bay, 1x open FDD bay
2x 5000rpm 10cm System Blower Fans
Custom-fit "Wind Tunnel" (CSE-PT113)
SuperMicro 260watt 1U Power Supply
Included Rack Mount Accessories:
Supermicro CSE-PT08 Rail Kit Included
2x Sliding Rails / 6x Brackets / Screws
Thoughts, opinions?
smacklan 06-09-2006, 02:59 PM you gonna run it yourself?
Joeychgo 06-09-2006, 03:00 PM you gonna run it yourself?
No, at least not at first. It will be managed, but I expect to learn what I need to in order to over time.
Peggy 06-09-2006, 03:02 PM wow... quite a jump
Boofo 06-09-2006, 03:17 PM I like SATA drives myself but I have heard SCSI or better for a server. Don't know how true it is. I get lied to allot.
Noppid 06-09-2006, 03:52 PM I like SATA drives myself but I have heard SCSI or better for a server. Don't know how true it is. I get lied to allot.
If this was going to be a full on shared hosting solution, SCSI would be a must. But the load here should never be that of a shared hosting server. SCSI does rule.
Joeychgo 06-09-2006, 07:07 PM From what I understand, Noppid is right on the money.
SCSI is the best, but there is a cost attached to it. In a shared hosting envrioment where there may be 300-400+ sites on a single server, a scsi will be required.
But actually, the set up I have with the RAID which greatly closes the gap in speed difference.
In our case, there will not be anywhere near 300-400 sits on the server. So the SATA with the hardware raid configuration should be more then adequate.
Boofo 06-09-2006, 09:48 PM See? I told you I get lied to a lot.
Noppid 06-09-2006, 10:08 PM See? I told you I get lied to a lot.
We're going to change all that for ya.
Boofo 06-09-2006, 10:40 PM We're going to change all that for ya.
Will you please be my mentor?
Peggy 06-09-2006, 10:43 PM Will you please be my mentor?
no way, he's my mentor...... :p
Noppid 06-09-2006, 11:03 PM I'm staying out of this love triangle.
It's hard enough being me.
Peggy 06-09-2006, 11:12 PM I'm staying out of this love triangle.
It's hard enough being me.
sorry noppid, you're in it waist-deep already ;)
Noppid 06-09-2006, 11:13 PM Boofo has been a .org mod so long, I forgot he can have fun.
Is it really him or an imposter?
Peggy 06-09-2006, 11:22 PM http://www.exquisitelyerotic.net/forums/images/smilies/offtopic.gif
sorry, I couldn't resist...
Boofo 06-09-2006, 11:24 PM Boofo has been a .org mod so long, I forgot he can have fun.
Is it really him or an imposter?
Think about that for second (Time's Up!). I was a Mod on the org. How real can I be in the first place? Really stupid maybe.
MXjunk127 06-10-2006, 07:48 AM Congratz, Where will you be locating it?
I know you were with ASO on a VPS so you were getting shafted, so you probobly could have looked at PowerVPS and been fine on one of there larger power plans for a good time, but good luck, I am going to take the plunge too soon.
Peggy 06-10-2006, 07:51 AM a couple of brave souls you two are...
Great move Joey, I have done exactly the same thing. tMP is now on a simlarly specc'ed machine and is flying.
Joeychgo 06-10-2006, 02:38 PM This server should be considerable overkill for TMP. Im running 5 forums on a VPS now which has similar specs (although has SCSI drives) -- But keep in mind, there are several VPS accounts on a server.
Thats why your server load is .05 John :) You have too much server - if thats possible. What you should do is resell some of the space to trusted people and offset your costs.
Hehe... I have around 25 paying webhosting customers Joey... ;)
Joeychgo 06-10-2006, 04:05 PM AH - See my point :)
Absolutely...
... and 5 more considering too!!
Joeychgo 06-10-2006, 04:26 PM What kind of sites?
The ones I have are all banding and brass music related Joey.
www.hooverbandbolton.org.uk/
www.darrolbarry.co.uk
www.gillinghamband.org
www.tenorhorn.co.uk/
... are just a few... nothing major - but they all pay!!
Joeychgo 06-10-2006, 04:50 PM But none are server intensive sites.
But none are server intensive sites.No, none are joey. They are all fairly static. I have a few that use Mambo for their site, but none are busy.
I have to admit now though that tMP is really performing superbly. When I have had loads in excess of 30/40, even as high as 80 on times... it's a combination of the Dual Core CPU and the 10,000K RPM SCSI drive that I now see only loads of 0.5 etc. Superb, really is...
Joeychgo 06-10-2006, 10:20 PM yeah, but John, a big part of that was that your server had to be tweaked. I went through the same thing when I started on the VPS, and expect to experience the same thing shortly with my dedicated..
While I agree with you to a certain extent there Joey, I am not sure the amount of tweaking that was done on my 1st dedicated server made any difference at all. The poor performance was primarily an issue of my site being too busy for the server to cope with, especially in some of the drive intensive aspects.
It was mainly when lots of disc activity was needed that the load shot up - i.e. CPU working like a dog to queue the required disc activity - and obviously the disc cannot be read from at the same speed as RAM etc, and so the system ground to a halt.
Now that I have a 10K RPM SCSI drive AND a Dual Core CPU, the system manages this much more efficiently and flys.
MXjunk127 06-11-2006, 01:44 PM Ohh yea, where are you getting the node from Joey?
Joeychgo 06-11-2006, 09:16 PM GNAX will be the datacenter.
mikelbeck 06-15-2006, 08:17 PM Where'd ya get it from, and what'd it cost?
I've got a bunch of VPSs I've been thinking about combining onto a dedicated server or two...
Joeychgo 06-16-2006, 01:12 AM Where'd ya get it from, and what'd it cost?
I've got a bunch of VPSs I've been thinking about combining onto a dedicated server or two...
http://www.apaqdigital.com/ebay/home/servers/1U_H8SSL_SC811T_X2.htm
WoodiE55 06-27-2006, 10:05 AM How many sites will this new server be hosting?
-Michael
Joeychgo 06-27-2006, 10:23 AM Thats a tricky question. 2 reasons. First, that number will grow as I build / aquire websites. Second, the number of websites isnt important, its the load each individual site places on the server's resources. Just as a gauge, our server load is generally around .5 - .6
Loco.M 06-27-2006, 10:31 AM i don't know anything about hosting on a server, i can build a sever but thats about it
either way, congrats on needing to upgrade ;)
hoe your making some $ on some of your sites to help pay for it..
WoodiE55 06-27-2006, 11:52 AM Thats a tricky question. 2 reasons. First, that number will grow as I build / aquire websites. Second, the number of websites isnt important, its the load each individual site places on the server's resources. Just as a gauge, our server load is generally around .5 - .6
Sorry didn't mean to be a trick question, I was just curious if you was putting more then vbulletin-faq on the server as a dedicated server seems to be a huge over kill for a forum of this size.
Have you decided where you're going to get the server?
-Michael
Joeychgo 06-27-2006, 01:02 PM Um... Already got it - in fact - this site is running on it. Catch up my friend.. :)
Oh, and I have a number of sites / forums on the server.
Thats a tricky question. 2 reasons. First, that number will grow as I build / aquire websites. Second, the number of websites isnt important, its the load each individual site places on the server's resources. Just as a gauge, our server load is generally around .5 - .6Really Joey....!!! I am rarely above 0.1:eek:
Joeychgo 06-27-2006, 02:13 PM Really Joey....!!! I am rarely above 0.1:eek:
I have 9 forums on my server - among other sites.
OK, sure, but I have 25+ sites too on mine. I was just a tad suprised at the load that's all.
Noppid 06-27-2006, 05:47 PM We have about 35 dynamic php sites. Those are keeping mysql busy. ;)
In fact, I've been able to get better benchmarks and have optimized alot of code since we got the server. Poor Tim. :p
valdeztke 03-06-2007, 11:04 AM What are the advantages between a Virtual Deticated Server to an actual server if you intend to only run a single site like mine?
I'm assuming a dedicated server is overkill for one site.
Thanks guys !
Peggy 03-06-2007, 11:05 AM Actually I would opt for a VPS before I went for a dedicated server for just one site.
Paul M 03-10-2007, 05:10 AM I'm assuming a dedicated server is overkill for one site.
Dedicated is not overkill if the traffic warrents it.
We are only one site but we on a dedicated server, and have a second one that we can split traffic across if necessary when we really get busy.
mikelbeck 08-06-2007, 08:36 PM Ya, this is an old thread that I've dredged up. ;-)
How's the Opteron CPU Joey? I'm building a server now with a Opteron 2210 in it, I'm wondering how it's gonna compare to my other box that has an Intel 3040 in it.
Joeychgo 08-06-2007, 10:24 PM I dunno. Seems to be ok. But im getting cramped. My sites just keep growing and now I have a hard time handling the number of requests.
Im looking at this one now, with a different HD setup though
http://www.apaqdigital.com/ebay/home/servers/1U_PDSMI+_SC813M_KF.htm
onehost 08-06-2007, 11:20 PM I dunno. Seems to be ok. But im getting cramped. My sites just keep growing and now I have a hard time handling the number of requests.
Im looking at this one now, with a different HD setup though
http://www.apaqdigital.com/ebay/home/servers/1U_PDSMI+_SC813M_KF.htm
Do you own your server, or do you rent?
Joeychgo 08-07-2007, 12:13 AM I own my own. I dont like to rent. I feel like im paying for something I dont own, and I also dont know anything about the history of.
mikelbeck 08-07-2007, 06:31 PM I dunno. Seems to be ok. But im getting cramped. My sites just keep growing and now I have a hard time handling the number of requests.
Im looking at this one now, with a different HD setup though
http://www.apaqdigital.com/ebay/home/servers/1U_PDSMI+_SC813M_KF.htm
What's the bottleneck? CPU? Memory? Disk?
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