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BamaStangGuy
03-22-2006, 01:51 AM
VBSEO (http://www.vbseo.com/aff/idevaffiliate.php?id=126). First off I want to say that VBSEO is not overpriced. It does what it does VERY well. It has many features that go beyond just URL rewriting and includes them in a very convenient control panel. It is very organized. It causes VERY minimal impact on server load among many other features that I will go into in great detail within this post.

Please note that the views that I express within this post are mine and do not in anyway reflect the views held by the VBSEO team. As you will surely see some of my views differ from theirs.

Let us get into the features offered by VBSEO. I will list the features offered by starting at the top of their configuration page and go from there. I will not be listing every single option, just the ones that will be the most valuable to you and in my opinion get you the best results.

General Settings

301 Redirect Original Content - By Enabling this option you are effectively redirecting the old showthread.php?t=22213 to the new static and rewritten url that will look something like /seo-your-vbulletin-forum.html. I recommend enabling this option so that all your old urls that are linked from other websites and still in the search engines cache will be redirected to the new url once clicked. This preserves page rank.

"File Not Found" requests handling? When you type in a location that does not exist on a website you will by default see an 404 Error message in your browser. VBSEO gives you the option of instead of showing the error message redirecting that person or search engine bot to the mainpage of your forum. This keeps the person/bot on your site and gives them the oppurtunity to browse/spider further instead of just stopping at the error message and closing the browser and leaving. This is what I use on all of my sites and I recommend.

Log & Tracking Options

Log Spider Activity in your Forums?
Set this option to 'Yes' to log Search Engine Spider activity on your Forums. This option requires the vBSEO Google / Yahoo Sitemap Generator installed. If you do not have the VBSEO Google / Yahoo Sitemap Generator installed you need to get this asap. It is free and works even if you do not have VBSEO. This is a VERY useful feature as it shows you the activity of all the major Search Engine spiders on your forum!

Add Google Analytics Code to your Forum Pages?
Select "Yes" to add the Google Analytics code to all your forum pages. Not only all forum pages but if you have a portal like vBadvanced installed it will ensure that Google Analytics is on those pages as well. This is also more effiecent than putting it in the headerinclude template as the headerinclude template does not include it in the archives! This option will place Google Analytics code on any page rewritten by VBSEO. This means the archive as well. This means you can be sure that all your forum is being tracked and you do not even have to edit a template for it!

Add Google Analytics "Tracking External Link Clicks" Code? NEW!
Select "Yes" to add the Google Analytics External Link Tracking code to all your external links. This feature enables you to track clicks on outbound links via your Google Analytics account. Again a very useful feature that requires no template edits just a simple click and save from the VBSEO control panel.

Enable Adsense Section Targeting? NEW! BETA
Select "Yes" to add Google AdSense section tags to relevant parts of your forum pages within forumhome, forumdisplay and showthread. This makes sure that just the content within your posts are seen by the adsense spider! Meaning signatures and postbit have no effect on what shows on your adsense ads.

vB's Archive Options
Welcome to one of the most controversial options in VBSEO :) I will spend a lot of time covering this as I firmly disagree with what the VBSEO team recommends for this setting.

Here are the exact settings they offer you for the archive:

Archive Options:

301 Redirect vB's Archive Thread Pages
'301 redirects' are "Google's Safe" way of moving content. Select this option to save your 'Page Ranking' while redirecting spiders (and users) to the new, static pages.

Rewrite vB's Archive Thread Pages
This option rewrites URLs so that original content is linked from within the archives, providing an excellent vBulletin sitemap.

Rewrite + 301 Redirect Archive Pages
This is a combination of options 1 and 2 (above). This option rewrites URLs so that original content is linked from within the archives AND also adds 301 redirects to the archive thread pages. Therefore, (a) it works as a sitemap for the static site and (b) it ensures that incoming links pointing to the old archive thread pages are redirected to the new, static pages also.

Keep vB's Archive default settings
Keeps VB archive stock. No changes made.

My choice and my reasoning behind it:


Keep vB's Archive default settings
This is what I have chosen to do for the time being. The big deciding factor for me doing this is the potential revenue earning that the archive has. The owner of sportsoutlaw.com was seeing revenue in the area of 60 dollars a day before turning off his archive and using it as a sitemap. After turning the archive off he went to about 60 dollars a month. That is quite a big drop and would make a few of us cry to lose that kind of revenue.

Not only that but Google has shown me no reason to believe that they are taking the archive as duplicate content. If Google is not going to hurt you for having it and it is going to make you more money with it enabled it is pretty obvious to me what I am going to do.

Rewrite Archive Root
Use this feature to replace the default '/archive/index.php/' part of the archive pages to a more search engine friendly version. You may change this to what you want.

NOTE: Old archive root URLs will be 301 redirected to the new custom formats. Therefore, previously indexed archive pages will still be found by both users and spiders.

Url Rewrite Settings

VBSEO rewrites the following urls:
Forum Display
Showthread
Showpost
Announcements
Printthread
Polls
Member Profiles
Avatars
Attachments
Navbar Image Bullets
You can have the URLS with the forum name or many many other possible variations. Check out VBSEO's site for a complete list of different variations.

I recommend that you only rewrite the urls you WANT Search Engines to see. For example the only URLS I rewrite are Showthread, Member Profiles and the Archive root! Nothing else on my forum is rewritten to save on server load. I also disallow everything else in a robots.txt file.

Non Forum Pages:
I can confirm that you can rewrite your vBadvanced CMPS pages with VBSEO.

SEO Functions

Replace the 'META KEYWORDS' Content
Replaces the 'META KEYWORDS' dynamically with content relevant to the page being displayed. Affects forums, threads, posts & member profiles. I have this enabled.

Replace the 'META DESCRIPTION' Content
This option replaces the 'META DESCRIPTION' content with the first words of the first posting in the page to a limit defined in the option below. I have this enabled as well.

Other Enhancements

Remove Thread Preview Text For Guest Visitors
Thread titles in forumdisplay links often contain "contributory" keywords related to the parent forum. Removing the thread preview text for unregistered visitors may help increase the relevant keyword ratio for these pages.

NOTE: Thread Preview Text is the text that appears when hovering thread links within the forumdisplay links.

I have this turned on and believe it to be very useful :)

External domains "Blacklist"
Enter domains list that will ALWAYS have Rel='nofollow' added to the links regardless of your other configuration settings.

Examples:
google.com (no 'http://www' required)
groups.google.com

This has been very useful to me when I find a link that someone has placed on my site that is not of high quality I can simply add that domain to the Blacklist and have it marked as nofollow

Footer Archive Links
What this does is add links to your Archive pages in the footer of your forum. This allows search engines to quickly find these pages and to distribute higher PR across the pages. An example of what this looks like can be found on my Ford Mustang (http://www.mustangevolution.com/forum/) website at the bottom. Everything after Archive Links: is automatically generated via VBSEO.

The options you have with this setting:
Add Links to the Archive Main Pages
Select "Yes" to add the links to archive sitemap pages at the footer of every page.
Add Links to ALL Archive Pages
Add Multiple Pages per Forum in Footer Archives Links
Do not add Links to Archive Pages

My setting is Add Links to the Archive Main Pages

Direct Category Links
Set this option to "Yes" to enable anchor type links for forum categories.

NOTE: Link to categories will look like "http://yourforumsroot/#category_title" An example: http://www.mustangevolution.com/forum/forum254/

In closing
If you have any questions about a feature I did not cover or want to hear more about something I mentioned feel free to respond. If you disagree with my views feel free to open up debate! I think I am correct but I do not know everything and if you have information that could be valuable to me and others please share!

Updated last on May 22, 2006:

BamaStangGuy
03-22-2006, 01:53 AM
The robots.txt file that I use with it:


User-agent: *
Disallow: /forum/admincp/
Disallow: /forum/cgi-bin/
Disallow: /forum/clientscript/
Disallow: /forum/includes/
Disallow: /forum/install/
Disallow: /forum/modcp/
Disallow: /forum/subscription.php
Disallow: /forum/payments.php
Disallow: /forum/profile.php
Disallow: /forum/faq.php
Disallow: /forum/calendar.php
Disallow: /forum/search.php
Disallow: /forum/private.php
Disallow: /forum/online.php
Disallow: /forum/sendmessage.php
Disallow: /forum/sendmessage.php?do=
Disallow: /forum/showgroups.php
Disallow: /forum/reputation.php
Disallow: /forum/report.php
Disallow: /forum/threadrate.php
Disallow: /forum/showpost.php
Disallow: /forum/postings.php
Disallow: /forum/newthread.php
Disallow: /forum/newreply.php
Disallow: /forum/register.php
Disallow: /forum/login.php
Disallow: /forum/faq.php
Disallow: /forum/image.php
Disallow: /forum/cron.php
Disallow: /forum/joinrequests.php
Disallow: /forum/usercp.php
Disallow: /videos/
Disallow: /pages/
Disallow: /oldtimeline/
Disallow: /php.php
Disallow: /dyR8Ywa962vx5BDG.txt
Disallow: /lvdyR8Ywa962vx5BDG.php
Disallow: /theapi.php
Disallow: /oldevents/
Disallow: /oldarticles/
Disallow: /oldstaff/
Disallow: /oldgallery/
Disallow: /garage/
Disallow: /featured/
Disallow: /images/

Mike
03-22-2006, 06:06 AM
Very good posts. However, I disagree in that this product is overpriced simply due to the premise it is living on, SEO. This is not a beneficial SEO tool. If anything, it is bad for SEO if used the way it is recommended, and pushed by the vbSEO staff.

If you want content relevant url's, it does a great job, at the cost of an increased server load. Somebody show me some evidence where these url's are actually beneficial and I might reconsider.

The adsense target feature is a joke as well, IMO. Now that the software is removed, my ads have not changed.

Spider logging - it shows you where they are going, but what good does that really do other than give you the peace of mind that they actually made it to your posts? the Spiders are gonna go where they want to go , and this software isnt directing them in any way.

Internal pagerank - I was pushed on the theory that internal pagerank would possibly increase. It didnt increase, and it didnt stay the same after going through a couple updates. It actually dropped.

Does it make google analyitics easier to set up? yes. Can you set this up on your own without the increased server load? yes.

Bottom line from my 5 months with this product is I got one thing out of it. I got the opportunity to pay $149 for the rights to display their link on the bottom of all my forum pages, slow down my site, and cause variousl glitches in features that I never had a problem with previously when using vbulletin software.

BamaStangGuy
03-22-2006, 07:49 AM
I have not see any bad or favorable effect from their adsense targeting feature. So I can not comment on that.

One thing I can comment on is that in my opinion you took it off at the wrong time. Google is just now moving into the new datacenters and they are getting their stuff together.

1 week ago Google was showing me with 609 indexed pages. Now Google has indexed 24,600 pages. All of those pages are rewritten and include archive. They have continued to add pages to the index everyday. Yesterday I showed 21,300 indexed.

I do agree with you though that I believe the way they recommend you setup the software is flawed. The archive should not be redirected. You should not rewrite any urls besides Member Profiles, Showthread and the archive root url.

Another thing I love is how the urls are easy to read in Google Analytics. Instead of showthread.php you get the actual page which helps with stat tracking.

BamaStangGuy
03-22-2006, 09:33 AM
Update: Google has 26,100 pages as of now. So in less than 2 hours almost 2,000 more pages have been added.

It is my opinion that by having a detailed robots.txt file it will aide in a faster indexing of your forum. For one it will not leave Google spending time on less important pages of your site and send them directly to what counts, which is Showthread and Archive for me :)

BamaStangGuy
03-22-2006, 10:03 AM
My site search:

Site:Mustangevolution.com (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=site%3Amustangevolution.com&btnG=Search)
My competitors for example:

Site:Stangnet.com (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=site%3Astangnet.com&btnG=Search)
site:3.8mustang.com (http://www.google.com/search?hs=F1K&hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=site%3A3.8mustang.com&btnG=Search)
site:muscle-mustangs.com (http://www.google.com/search?hs=F1K&hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=site%3Amuscle-mustangs.com&btnG=Search)

Joeychgo
03-22-2006, 02:29 PM
I wouldnt rely much on how many indexed pages. Google's index fluctuates constantly, and sometimes you'll see large drops in the pages indexed, for them to only come back in 2 weeks. Its happened to me several times on every forum I have.

However - just to point this out:

site:www.lincolnvscadillac.com (http://www.lincolnvscadillac.com)
Results 1 - 10 of about 462,000 from www.lincolnvscadillac.com (http://www.lincolnvscadillac.com)

:D :D But to be truthful, a month ago it was around 20,000.

SecondLaw
07-06-2006, 01:36 AM
I'm on about 5 months with vbseo and wow... I have 764 or so indexed pages:

site:www.njflyfishing.com

whooopie

149.00 down the tubes. Anyone have any suggestions to get me indexed in Google? I think my site has plenty of great content. Indexing is simply not working.

Peggy
07-06-2006, 01:57 AM
Just go through all of the articles that Joey has written or quoted on this site hun. Both is this forum and on the front page.
BTW, I like your site. I see you use the subforums hack for putting them in columns. Nice

Brandon Sheley
07-06-2006, 05:31 AM
SecondLaw I suggest you looking at your site as a guest or as a "spider" you want links to be very easy to find for spiders, I'd remove all the links in your navbar that guest can't use anyway.
what done u use RR for your post ? this is much better then what your doing now.
in fact I could name off a dozen things to do to help your SEO
Like OHS said, look at this site or vbwebmasters or you know vbseo.com has some great info to help..
if you would like a better review of your site, send me a PM or post a thread,, like i said,, there are many things you can do to help..

it's a bit annoying when users thing vbseo is going to make there site #1 by just adding the script.... :p
it's stated in several placed that this isn't the case, and vbseo is only a small part of proper SEO

ps.. there are sites that you can enter your url, and see how a spider see's your site.. i suggest checking this out..

this isn't a rant to you, just trying to help ;)

best of luck to ya

more then 1/2 the links in your navbar show this to guest..

You are not logged in or you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:

I'd put some conditions around those links so they aren't even shown ;)
not to mention a welcome header hack.. load it with keywords and good description..

bin_asc
07-10-2006, 10:48 PM
I think it`s good but a bit toooo pricy for what it does.Like we pay for vbulletin a max of 160 $ for a owned license and it`s like way over 1 MB, but this is 300 kB of code.And were paying just as much as a new vb script.I want to use vRewrite.It has some basic tools, that I think are enough for anyone.

BamaStangGuy
11-26-2006, 01:12 AM
An updated version of this is here: VBSEO 3.0.0 Feature Guide (http://www.vbulletin-faq.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5430)