yup AA is down once again

I give up not even a week ago they were down 6 hours than the 12 hour server fix with no reporting. Sorry but they are way to unstable I'm switching back to cj. They killed their own company good luck.

Yes I agree, this is a pain, however you do need to appreciate that they are growing at a phenomenal rate and their success is only going to continue. OK, the downtime is frustrating, but stick with them and be part of their success.

It will happen.

Rar, im out, not making anything of them anyways. :(

ive removed mine, not making a penny, i presumed it would go off clicks, its showing clicks but $0.00

as of now they have been down for over 24 hours this week. That is a full day! How hard is it for them to not take new sign ups until they can handle what they have. I give up until they get heir act together.

ive removed mine, not making a penny, i presumed it would go off clicks, its showing clicks but $0.00No, it's not off clicks, it's of a winning auction off a click.

So, if you have a link to an eBay Ad, and someone from your site clicks on it, makes a bid and wins - then you receive a commission payment. If the item they purchased is of low value - then of course you won't receive much, but if the item is an expensive item, then you will receive a much larger amount.

I'm going to take them off, I think. For now. I'm not cancelling my account with them, but my members are beginning to complain about seeing the blank space on my site where their ads don't load up, lol.

I will try them on my new forum when I get it going. Maybe by then, they'll have straightened things out.

No, it's not off clicks, it's of a winning auction off a click.


I signed up less then a week ago, and have only just implemented a few ads. According to the channels I set up I should be fairing better then what I was with just Adsense.

Same ad size & placement in adsense with over 3000 impressions I had 0 clicks with AuctionAds I've had 6 clicks with 400 impressions. I am now hoping for the best.

Down time or not, for at least a few of my pages AA seems to have more potential, so I'll give them likely a LOT more time ;).

Yes I agree, this is a pain, however you do need to appreciate that they are growing at a phenomenal rate and their success is only going to continue. OK, the downtime is frustrating, but stick with them and be part of their success.

I do agree with Sapper in that maybe they should turn off new members till they can start to handle the current server load. my 6 clicks could maybe be 7 or 8 and that extra one or two could be the ones that would have actually bought something.

*shrug*

I still think it has better potential for a few of my pages. Especially my 'humor' sites and others that seem to be "smart priced".

No, it's not off clicks, it's of a winning auction off a click.

So, if you have a link to an eBay Ad, and someone from your site clicks on it, makes a bid and wins - then you receive a commission payment. If the item they purchased is of low value - then of course you won't receive much, but if the item is an expensive item, then you will receive a much larger amount.

ah right thanks, will defo take keep them off, dont think that i wll be getting any money from them!!

wow, they were up for a whole 5 hours today down again

Yeah I'm trying to find something to replace them with til they get these bugged worked out.

OMG!! :rofl: I have bikini ads on my site. rofl!

Shoemoney is boasting that AA is already at 25k affiliates and they are adding 300 new affiliates a day.
How is that going to help when they can't show ads for the current affiliates??
He has to stand back for a bit, stop taking on new affiliates, get some proper infrastructure in place, get some staff, he's trying to run the whole ship with just himself and one other person.

I was going to post about this on Digital Point but it's getting very aggressive in the threads and Shoemoney doesn't help when he responds like this
I actually wrote out a 8 paragraph response to this but then I noticed you have only been a member for 1 month. You don't know me or my company or any of the things we have done before. So you want to call bs then your call. But you have probably heard of a little company called eBay and guess what? They see our numbers what we pay out and what we take in. Do you think they would stand behind us, award us there top awards if we did not do what we say?

yea.. this is why posting on forums is a waste of time. Use your frickin head.
Then the thread was closed, now who else has the clout to get a thread closed on DP when things are going against you, I know I can't and I have been a member of DP for longer than shoemoney. That really pisses me off, and it's sure not going to help Shoemoney or AA's credibility.

Some points,
Ad's don't show properly,
Ad's slow our sites down,
Incorrect ads showing,
Clicks aren't being recorded,
Commissions aren't being paid because of unrecorded clicks,
If publishers aren't getting paid someone is,
Support, none, they don't reply to emails.

Joey posted this in the closed thread on DP.
Jeremy if I can do anything to help, you know how to reach me. Just ask.
If Shoemoney would accept some help and respond in a positive manner instead of abusing people this whinging could be turned around, he needs to get people like Joey and myself behind him.

I don't want to keep bitching about this, I think AA will work and work well but Shoemoneys attitude to his publishers really gets me worked up.

If Shoemoney would accept some help and respond in a positive manner instead of abusing people this whinging could be turned around, he needs to get people like Joey and myself behind him.

I don't want to keep bitching about this, I think AA will work and work well but Shoemoneys attitude to his publishers really gets me worked up.


I suspect the pressure is weighing on him a bit. He has a tiger by the tail. I wish he would let some people help.

However, I also have reason to suspect that there is a reason for Jeremy not takig on extra help at this time. I cant say any more then that.

Well the ads are coming in...they have nothing to do with my keywords, but there are ads, ugh!

I had lingerie ads early this morning - rather sexy ones, I might add.

I have all nintendo stuff, lovely. Oh well I guess. Better then page errors.

Whew no more nintendo. I hope that for those of you still showing their ads they are back on track. Can't say how long it will last though, sigh.

The site was down for a bit a couple of hours ago .... pages seem to be loading a lot faster now, check out this page as I loaded it up with ads using a different keyword for seven different ad units .... I can keep an eye on the speed and check that the right categories come up doing it like this.
www.tech-products.info/

.However, I also have reason to suspect that there is a reason for Jeremy not takig on extra help at this time. I cant say any more then that.

Cause he is selling it's pretty obvious that Ebay will be running it in the future.

Cause he is selling it's pretty obvious that Ebay will be running it in the future.

Nope - he's not selling. At least not the last I heard.

It's been up and down all day today. It's slowing my site down too much, so I'm removing them. When they get the system fixed, I'll reconsider them.

Has anyone tried placing the ads in an iframe to see if this helps reduce page loading? To me it is worse to have my pages load slow than to have the ads display the wrong content. At least showing a bunch of nintendo ads is better than having my visitors leave because the page hangs waiting for the script.

Cause he is selling it's pretty obvious that Ebay will be running it in the future.
Where did you get that info from sapper?

Just in from shoemoney...

Right now we are implementing about 30% more hardware to keep up with the demand and more hardware is on the way. ads are serving and everything is being counted the primary website is down atm.

verything is being counted

I'll expect my impressions & clicks to rise by the end of the day then, as I've seen no change since I got up this morning.

Though, I do look forward to the upgrades... I really would like the thing to be stable before I fully implement it on something other then a few test pages.

I'll expect my impressions & clicks to rise by the end of the day then, as I've seen no change since I got up this morning.

Though, I do look forward to the upgrades... I really would like the thing to be stable before I fully implement it on something other then a few test pages.


Yeah... Ive said is a number of times. He didnt expect AuctionAds to become this popular this fast. So he's playing alot of catch up im sure.

Sounds to me like servers are ordered and on their way.

Where did you get that info from sapper?

Just a hunch from posts I have seen. Why else would he not hire people to help? There can be no other explanation. Unless he is truly that bad of a biz man. Now he has said the adsense ads on shoemoney make 10k a month add in the other crap he runs and it is not because he does not have the money. The only logical one is that he is selling it that or he is nuts.
On a side note his little temper tantrum on digital point has lowered the guy about 3 notches in my book. Until its straight I'm going back to cj. I know he is like a god to some people or whatever, but his actions were not called for people offering help and him acting like a total tool. No thanks
Especially after all the people stuck up for him over there. He must not get that the person he was bitching at was a "customer". I know I'll catch hell for this post, but some things need to be said. I'm glad they are adding more servers, But he needs to post something on digital point explaining his attitude problem. People who deserve respect should get it people who do not should not.
In my full time job if a supplier acts like that see you later account dropped, or is the internet not like real biz. I will not post anymore on this subject see you guys when stuffs straight again.

I am privvy to a few things but have been sworn to secrecy.

All I can say is you should be patient and wait it out.

Trying out iframes to see if this helps speed things up. I created a regular html page with the ad script, then in my module (using vba) I call that page in an iframe. Maybe its just a coincidence but the pages are loading faster (than this morning) and then the ads just come in on there own. Sometimes when the ads hang the module is simply left empty, but at least the page isn't left waiting for the script to finish. Before I was only seeing half the page while it waited for the ad script to complete.

I am privvy to a few things but have been sworn to secrecy.

All I can say is you should be patient and wait it out.
Hun - I'm sure that most people would be patient, if Jeremy had a better attitude ;)

Hun - I'm sure that most people would be patient, if Jeremy had a better attitude ;)


Well, look at what some people have said. Although I dont agree, I do understand why he might be a bit short tempered about some things.

yep, I understand as well. It's a vicious circle, as always. People get upset that the thing is down so much, they complain (most times, not in the nicest manner), he gets upset and mouths off - happens in every business, unfortunately.

Well, look at what some people have said. Although I dont agree, I do understand why he might be a bit short tempered about some things.
He has always had that attitude .... ever listened to his internet radio show, he is always putting people down and calling them ***** names.

OK he may not be selling but there has to be some motive for persisting in getting as many new affiliates as possible.
It's reaching a critical point now where every Forum has a thread bashing Auction Ads .... people are taking AA off their sites as fast as new affiliates are putting them up.

It just doesn't make any sense at all to continue to sign up new affiliates while these problems continue.

It really isnt all that unusual. Many start ups grow faster then they expected and experience growing pains. Thats all AA is going through. Some of us have more patience then others. I recognize these are bumps in the road, and they dont affect me much. Im still making good money.

What does get me are the people who piss n moan they dont make much money, but do nothing to try to improve things. A guy with 100 impressions a day whines he doesnt make much money and blames it on AA. (example)

But that aside.. I agree, Jeremy should take things a little easier and certainly not snap publically on people. I attribute it to stress over the issue mostly. But your right, he needs a gentler approach.

What does get me are the people who piss n moan they dont make much money, but do nothing to try to improve things. A guy with 100 impressions a day whines he doesnt make much money and blames it on AA. (example)


I'm proud to announce that I'm the guy with only only 100 impressions a day that is blaming it on AA... the reason for the blame though is that there is NO WAY I'll be putting something that is broken on my forum that's getting thousands impressions a day. You'll also not find me telling my other web master friends that its worth their while. I'm not really complaining as those 100 impressions I'm getting do pretty good I just have no real room for praise. Half the day yesterday I got a white age at log in, and I've yet to see an ad that matched my keywords.

I may actually ad it to a few other of my pages, but NOT my forum. My forum actually has QUALITY guidelines.

IMHO, keeping the doors open to new members is kind of like sending out pool party invites when your well has run dry. Fill that pool first, then we can all have fun!

My hopes are still high though...

Actually - I wasnt referring to any one person. There have been a number of people complaining like that on several different forums. There have also been people who have sites that are not likely to earn much (this forum is a good example of a site that I wouldnt expect much from) regardless of traffic. Then there are people who have not worked with placement or keywords.

What does get me are the people who piss n moan they dont make much money, but do nothing to try to improve things. A guy with 100 impressions a day whines he doesnt make much money and blames it on AA. (example)


In the 8 days that I ran AA, I had 2.6 million impressions and nearly 7,000 clicks. And I haven't made a dime, even though users have reported that they directly clicked and BIN'd some of the auctions in the ads and paid Paypal. I can't trust this service in any way, the ads have been pulled and AA hasn't responded to any of my e-mails. What a joke.

Actually - I wasnt referring to any one person. There have been a number of people complaining like that on several different forums. There have also been people who have sites that are not likely to earn much (this forum is a good example of a site that I wouldnt expect much from) regardless of traffic. Then there are people who have not worked with placement or keywords.


:D I didn't take your example personally, it's just I happened to personally fit within said example :p

My next step is to diddle with the keywords, though I think my placements are (at least) OK. Though, I'm not actually sure if I need to even bother with keywords as I've seen no real indication that they have any relevance to the ads... unless ps3 and ipods are celtic or occult and no one has bothered to tell me yet *shrug*

I am really itching to get the ball rolling with AA on my forums however the more I look into it the more I'm finding negative testimonial. And while I guess that can be expected with a new venture of this magnitude, the people that run it have to expect such a response and in return MUST use at least some tact and grace in their replies. I am seeing more and more unhappy users of this service turning completely disgruntled due to the lack of support and/or negative support of the Auction Ads Staff.

I plan on holding out for as long as I can, and I'll do what I can to lend support or aid. I fully plan on giving more input, ideas, and suggestions to make the thing the very best it can be. But until it reaches the quality standards of my board it'll not make it on any of it's pages. This means not only ad stability, but also positive support practices...

My hat is off to all those that are also willing to stick it out through these rough times, but I also lose NO respect for those dropping the program.

In the 8 days that I ran AA, I had 2.6 million impressions and nearly 7,000 clicks. And I haven't made a dime, even though users have reported that they directly clicked and BIN'd some of the auctions in the ads and paid Paypal. I can't trust this service in any way, the ads have been pulled and AA hasn't responded to any of my e-mails. What a joke.


My problem with this is that I got about the same clicks in June, and was well paid. I'm not saying it isn't possible, but why would they cheat you and not me? Beyond that, how would a programming glitch cause you to get cheated and not me?

On the customer service issue, Jeremy has admitted that that is a big weakness for them and that steps are in process to resolve that issue.

Please allow me to play devil's advocate here -

My problem with this is that I got about the same clicks in June, and was well paid. I'm not saying it isn't possible, but why would they cheat you and not me? Beyond that, how would a programming glitch cause you to get cheated and not me?

You are one of Jeremy's, and AA's, biggest supporters.

Aside from that - there are several serious problems here. There are just too many people complaining of not being paid when their members have reported that they have BIN'd and paid via PayPal.

Then there's the ads. Down more than up, then half the time that they're up, you get ads pertaining to everything but your keywords.

The program just is not working.

wow um I was just bitching about them being down and their customer service sucking. I don't think they are ripping people off. As I posted here I was paid pretty good for last month. This is from a person fed up with the whole thing. To make this clear I am not on the bandwagon for people not getting paid and even with the outages at this time I am at about 800% more than I made on this date last month with far fewer clicks and not promoting as much. Also I think people need to remember that fire fox does not allow cookies if setup that way or the person may have been prompted about the cookie and chose no. These are 2 viable options as to why some auctions are not paying.

My problem with this is that I got about the same clicks in June, and was well paid. I'm not saying it isn't possible, but why would they cheat you and not me? Beyond that, how would a programming glitch cause you to get cheated and not me?

On the customer service issue, Jeremy has admitted that that is a big weakness for them and that steps are in process to resolve that issue.

I'm not saying they deliberately cheated me, I'm just saying something clearly isn't working. This screenshot is my total from 7/7-7/15. Has anyone else registered any revenue over the last week?

I've since pulled the ads, pending a response from the team......

wow you have a ton of impressions. I wish i had that many

Here is my 7/7-7/15

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g272/xd1978/715.jpg

Total 1566 18 1.15 $0.17

I made 17 cents on the 14th

wow you have a ton of impressions. I wish i had that many

Here is my 7/7-7/15

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g272/xd1978/715.jpg


Well, I certainly wish I could get your click through on my # of impressions.. LOL. So they are tracking yours, I just can't understand how I have users telling me that they've BIN'd and paypal'd directly, and even given me the auction #s and just.... nothing..... Until they get back to me, they're off my site for something that'll at least pay me a bit!

Try using the commission junction setup and see if it converts better. I switched a couple of my sites to it and it seems to do about the same.

I've a couple of campaigns on one of my forums. I display ads in the left column of FORUMHOME and after the first post in SHOWTHREAD.

With the very same keywords in both campaigns, I am seeing completely different ads in the two campaigns. My keywords are kilt, tartan and kiltpin and one campaign has ads for boats (boat lettering, a boat and a gravy boat), while the other campaign has ads for sunglasses.

I'm willing to give things a fair shake, but...

What is your keywords line in the code?

As in, what are you separating the keywords with...

I'm finding on my pages where I am using ; I'm getting random ads (Nintendo & Wii) and when I use a , they are on-topic (occult, pagan = books on witchcraft)

I use , and it hasn't mattered one bit

I use , and it hasn't mattered one bit

strange!

finally put it up on my forum to test it and used ; which resulted in random ads. I swapped it out to , and they got inline. I switched back and they were random again. The same thing happened on my smaller pages as well.

*sigh*

Well, maybe try ; ?

Hehe...maybe I'm just one of the lucky ones?

A comma and a semi-colon seem to provide the same, completely unrelated results for me.

here is my 7/7 through 7/15

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c179/gumby86/AuctionAds-Report_1184853314437.jpg

I only use one keyword now ... it's still not anywhere near right but at least relevant ads do occur a lot more than before.

More worrying for me is the lack of Revenue, I haven't received a commission since the 8th of this month (I received two for that day) which is the day before the problems really kicked in.
Now up to that day I was receiving commissions just about on a daily basis.

Is there anybody out there earning anything from Auction Ads at the moment.
Last month I was doing great, this month not a cent in earnings since the 8th, before then I was earning on most days.
In fact it was working so well that I bought some sites especially for Auction Ads and spent quite a bit of money in the process.

What's pissing me is that clicks aren't being reported properly, I checked by using a proxy and clicking on the ads on one of my sites with the result that none showed up ... BUT the impressions were counted.
It's not that the ads aren't relevant thats the problem, I check and nine times out of ten relevant ads are showing, the speed the pages load at seems to be better so the problem has to be with the Cookies not getting set.

On other Forums the "Shoemoney can do no wrong brigade" are turning into a lynch mob.
The fact that he isn't saying anything either on the forums, (probably fair enough) or on the AA home page or blog is pretty piss poor.
He has to keep people informed, good or bad. He was pretty big mouthed about it when it was all going well.

Just a thought but I'm wondering if Ebay are deliberately sabotaging Auction Ads.

Here is my reporting up to 21st. Earned nothing on 22nd which was strange. I need more forums. you are right though earnings are down for the month last month almost 200 in 15 days not this in 21 days

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g272/xd1978/auctads24th.jpg